In Defence of Creativity (& The Greater Problem Of The ‘International Quality’): An Artist’s Response To The 2011 Taite Music Prize

The Taite Music Prize was introduced in 2010 to ‘recognise outstanding creativity for an entire collection of music contained on one album’ released over a twelve-month period. At a recent ceremony in Auckland, the 2011 prize was awarded to the artist Ladi6 for her album The Liberation Of…. This decision and how it has been made interests me for several reasons, and as an artist I feel it is important to explore issues surrounding it. In particular, I want to address: Does the Taite Music Prize allow for creativity to be assessed in an acceptable way? What does this decision mean for the future of the award? And; How do the attitudes of judging panels such as this one impact the creativity of emerging New Zealand artists?

I’d firstly like to pre-empt any inevitable interpretation of this response as one of upset in my being a finalist but not winner of the award. My motivations here grow both from an overall concern that I’ll go on to describe, as well as a result of receiving significant feedback from others – both in and out of the music industry – who are also interested in discussing the judges’ decision, specifically in relation to the award criteria. Also compelling is my observation that when something of an imbalance occurs within our music community, very few people seem prepared to make their concerns public. I suspect artists fear being blacklisted from future chances of recognition within the circles in question, while others in media positions have business and personal relationships that they are afraid of bruising. These anxieties do not personally concern me, especially in comparison to the responsibility I feel in contributing positively to the dialogue of what in New Zealand music we consider to be creatively successful work.

‘The Taite’

According to its publicity, the Taite Music Prize is the first of its kind in New Zealand, designed to be an equivalent of The UK’s Mercury Prize and Canada’s Polaris Music Prize. Touted as honouring ‘originality, creativity and musicianship’ and offering a $10,000 cash prize, it was set up by the Taite family in memory of the late music journalist Dylan Taite, and is principally sponsored by Independent Music New Zealand (IMNZ) and PPNZ Music Licensing (PPNZ), whom I will refer to as ‘the facilitators’ of the award.

The judging process is two-staged. The first stage is an online vote by IMNZ members (made up largely of record labels and artists) and a twenty-person non-IMNZ group of music industry and media people. All entered albums – this year there were 73 – are made available to listen to via a digital stream, should the voter wish. The voter selects ten albums that they believe best fit the criteria, ranking them from 1-10. Combining all votes, an undefined number of finalists are selected (5 in 2010, 8 in 2011).

In the second and final stage, eleven judges decide the winner from the finalists. These judges have already cast their top ten votes in the first round, so according to Renee Jones of IMNZ, this involves a ‘hearty debate’ from which the winning album emerges.

Many felt that the introduction of the Taite marked the long overdue arrival of an award that acknowledges creatively ambitious and original work, arguably unique to Aotearoa. Though I’m dubious of competition in general, I was absolutely one of these people, relieved and excited about the potential energy that the award could bring in encouraging the vital use of imagination in making New Zealand music, as well as the expanded audience that further exposure of nominated albums could open up.

The Ceremony (& My Own Naïvety)

I attended this year’s Taite Music Prize ceremony. I’d never been to an industry event of this kind before so didn’t know entirely what to expect, however given the emphasis on creativity and artistic merit in the rhetoric of the award’s publicity, I was very happy to be there. I’d once been to the Sale St bar (wheeler-dealer types/meat-market Saturday nights) to see a friend perform, and from that brief experience I thought it an unusual choice of venue.

The ceremony itself was relegated to a tight-ish corner of the bar, everyone lit in an overbearing, almost Lynchian red. The soundtrack for the evening was the far-too-loud generic nothingness of bar beats – odd considering the occasion – remaining at overkill level even during the speeches, which probably a good half of the 120 or so people attending couldn’t hear. The speakers were John Taite, Ben Howe of IMNZ, Kristen Bowman of PPNZ, and MC Russell Brown. From what could be made out, they all talked a lot about creativity and how important it is. A short video was shown with thirty-second clips of music videos or graphics from the nominated albums. Bowman then announced Ladi6 as the winner. MC Brown followed with something very close to: ‘Wow, I’ve worked with Ladi6 and she’s great, but I didn’t think she’d win!’ A gracious pre-recorded acceptance speech from Ladi6 and her collaborator Parks was shown, Lawrence Arabia performed, and things wrapped up as suddenly as they’d begun.

In my naïvety I assumed there would be a level of decorum and sense of occasion to the night, and as a nominated artist, was disappointed. Perhaps the other nominees were more clued up; I’ve confirmed with Renee Jones that it was a relatively artist-free zone, with only myself and possibly Julia Deans in attendance (apparently most of the others were overseas or unavailable – no fault of the organisers of course). At the end of the day, you could argue that it’s not about the quality of the ceremony, but the prize itself. Surely though, considering both the kaupapa and gravity of the award, more thought – and needless to say, creativity – could have been put into the shape of the evening. Furthermore, if the production of the ceremony is any reflection of how the Taite Music Prize as a whole is managed, concerns regarding its integrity are warranted.

Judging Judging (& Judges)

In my view, there are several major flaws in the judging process.

In the first stage of voting, there is no obligation for voters to listen to each album before voting. In fact, if the average album were about 45 minutes in length, a fair judge in this year’s round of 73 records would have to listen to nearly 55 hours worth of music, worthy of an award in itself. I doubt many did this, and the result is that the basis of the initial judging round relies on an unrealistic system in which voters simply don’t have the means to grasp the material they are assessing. As a voter, the temptation is to support artists or albums that you do know, or, depending on your loyalties and your ability to put these aside, are associated with. However, the 90 or so judges are trusted not to do that, and vote according to their belief of those albums that most align to the award criteria. It has been noted that several highly creative albums failed to be nominated as finalists, while several finalists are not especially ambitious but are, however, popular. I agree with this view, and think that already at this first and crucial stage, the Taite’s judging process is distorted and open to bias.

By the second round, the power of the decision relies on the views of the eleven-person judging panel. This panel have the great and complex task of mutually deciding on, and therefore defining, the best example of creativity from the finalist albums. Therefore, the selection of judges on the panel is of the utmost importance. They need to be people who are able to make qualified decisions regarding creativity, and to put aside existing relationships with nominated artists, any knowledge of popularity, sales and international recognition, and even what might be their favourite of the finalist albums to instead focus entirely on the aspects of ‘originality, creativity and musicianship’. They need to be the kind of people who to some extent understand the process of creating work, because according to the award criteria they are not only assessing the music of an album, but the work as a whole: the music, the artwork and the packaging.

One would also expect this panel to represent knowledge in the various forms of musical expression in Aotearoa, so as they can bring the widest possible perspective and expertise to this process. In 2011, the judges were John Taite (son of Dylan, BBC Worldwide), Sam Collins, Fleur Jack, Phoebe Spiers (all of KiwiFM), Graham Reid (NZ Herald, NZ Listener, Elsewhere, KiwiFM), Charlotte Ryan (bFM), Aroha Harawira (George FM), Sam Wicks (Groove Guide), Vicki Anderson (The Press), Nicky Harrop (Sony/BMG), and Hugh Sundae (a more general media personality). Apologies if I have missed any other significant associated roles or organisations.

At first glance, it may seem that there is a decent enough selection of musical taste and background represented. Indeed, each person above is to be respected for working within his or her own niche, operating active parts of the New Zealand music machine and therefore bringing valuable personal experience to the judging process. Despite this, I feel that the scope of critique that this panel offers is not encompassing enough of the challenge at hand. Where are representatives of the classical world (as with the Mercury Prize panel)? Anacademic perspective? And pivotally, why are there no artists on the panel? Surely those that choose creative expression as a career have the experience and interest enough to make qualified judges. More preferable to a media personality would be, for example, an established artist from another medium, such as a poet or writer, who could offer their perspective on, among other things, lyrics or narrative.

It seems to me (and this was confirmed by Jones when I asked how the judges are chosen) that the panel is based largely on the media organisations they represent. This is practical for the facilitators of the Taite in the sense that media coverage of the award – it’s build-up, conclusion, and developing reputation – is ensured through the involvement of the people or organisations on its panel…but at what compromise?

As well as the responsible selection of a panel, the award facilitators need to provide their judges with every opportunity to spend time with the finalist albums. Common sense would suggest that each judge would be given a copy of each album in order to listen to and experience it in the environment that best suits them, with the album presented in the original manner that the artist intended. As opposed to last year’s prize, the 2011 panel were not provided with this. Music from the albums was offered solely via a low-medium quality stream from the IMNZ website. Instantly, the conditions the judges listen under are limiting: sitting at a computer digesting a compromised quality of sound (that relies on a steady internet connection), sans packaging, artwork or where relevant, lyrics.

There is another obvious reason for judges having physical copies of the albums (if indeed the artist intended for a physical release): the published criteria state that album packaging is assessed as part of the overall award. Despite this, the judges’ experience of the packaging was based on viewing it only once, at their single hour-and-a-half meeting to decide on a winner. Incidentally, this meeting was not attended by judge John Taite, while judge Vicki Anderson joined from Christchurch via telephone.

In my view, the above conditions are nowhere near as practical as they should be for making sound decisions about creativity; even if they were considered acceptable by a judge, I doubt they would be by many of the nominees.

The International Sound (& Hopefully Getting Over It)

Following the announcement of the winner, a press release was issued from IMNZ that begins: A release that judge Sam Collins describes as “a truly international quality album”, Ladi6’s The Liberation Of… was this evening awarded the 2011 Taite Music Prize… The work of soon-to-be Europe-based New Zealand musician Karoline Tamati AKA Ladi6, The Liberation Of… was recorded over two months in Berlin with production duties shared between her producer Parks and German beat auteur Sepalot.

What is ‘a truly international quality’? Possibly it could be a number of things, but in this context I interpret the phrase as suggesting that The Liberation Of… is comparable to current international trends. It would also be fair to assume that this ‘international quality’ was at the least a significant motivator for the judges to deduce The Liberation Of… as the winner of the Taite Music Prize. This begs the question: Should the creative success of a local artist be judged on their ability to comply with international trends?

For most of the 20th Century colonial societies such as New Zealand suffered what is known as ‘cultural cringe’, or more formally, a cultural inferiority complex. This is essentially the often-subconscious (but often not) belief that everything about our own society is notquite as good as that of others.

Tragically, some parts of our society are still unwittingly stuck with their eyes and ears fixed firmly on the horizon, obsessed and distracted by the glow of all that is ‘international’. Many parts of our music industry are in this place. The major funding organisations, for example, too often evaluate the worth of local bands, artists and songs by gauging their sound with overseas formulas proving popular at the time, however through a combination of the conservatism of these organisations and New Zealand’s geographical isolation, these trends end up being rather yesteryear by the time they influence our music. The ultimate result is that we end up with musicians concerned more with emulation than innovation, taught that to receive funding, airplay and media attention, they need to wade through territory that, whether they know it or not, has already been canvassed overseas.

Of course, being influenced by and aware of what is happening in other cultures can be a hugely positive thing for an artist, and arguably necessary to his or her development. Industry fixation on artists who are based on foreign counterparts, however, in turn adversely contributes to a lack of support and resources for those artists concerned with creating fundamentally unique work that is a more direct expression of Aotearoa, whatever that may be.

I detect strong traces of cultural cringe in the press statement from IMNZ. If the 2011 Taite panel were not in fact influenced by the irrelevancy of international trends, the press statement has done a perfectly good job of suggesting otherwise, and its unambiguous tone contributes to the outdated mentality that, as a music industry, we are failing to move through.

The Liberation of… The Taite

Where to from here for the Taite? If the current award criteria are to be maintained, several procedural changes need to be made.

The judging process requires an overhaul.

In the first round, a system that presents the potential 90+ voters with the challenge of listening to over 70 albums is unrealistic. Instead, I believe that the steps taken to find a shortlist of finalists should take inspiration from the Polaris Music Prize. In that system, the first round includes judges who both apply to be involved and are invited by the facilitators. Known as the ‘jury’, there were 225 members this year, from widely ranging backgrounds. Each jury member puts forward five albums, from any genre, that they believe show artistic merit. The 40 most-voted albums form a ‘long list’, and from this list, the jury vote again to create the ‘short list’ of ten finalists. Finally, a ‘grand jury’ of eleven judges debate and then choose a winner. This process takes place over several months and encourages great levels of online discussion between each stage of voting – jury members argue the case for certain albums, are introduced to work they hadn’t considered, and become as educated as possible before voting for the short list.

The finalist judging panel needs to represent a wider scope of critics from more varying backgrounds including the classical and academic worlds, as well as established musicians and artists from other mediums.

In the second and final round of the current system, digital streaming as the only means for judges to listen to finalist albums should be scrapped. Judges need to be given a copy of each finalist album in the manner the artist originally intended it to be presented. I’m sure, given that they are finalists, artists won’t have a problem supplying eleven copies of their album, as they did in 2010. This will also ensure that packaging, artwork and other information such as lyrics will be properly absorbed and assessed.

Also in the second round, a greater level of dialogue between judges needs to take place, as opposed to this year’s single ninety-minute meeting. Looking to the Mercury, the judging panel meets twice, with a six-week gap between each meeting. The second meeting is held on the afternoon and evening of the awards, with a break for dinner, and the winner is decided just prior to the awards ceremony. I feel that a process as important as choosing the winning album simply can’t happen quickly, and at least two panel meetings are required. At the initial meeting, judges need to absorb the views of other panel members and have their own opinions challenged, before retreating to reassess their decision and meeting again weeks later. This way, judges have gone through a personal and group process that demands much more reasoned and thorough decision-making than one, probably relatively polite get-together.

Finally, the awards ceremony needs to be a far better conceived, planned and produced event that reflects the nature of what the Taite should be honouring.

The Taite family, IMNZ and PPNZ deserve to be acknowledged and thoroughly supported for recognising the dire need for an award that celebrates unique New Zealand albums. The Taite Music Prize is still young, and has the opportunity to become the great thing that it is meant to be. For their kaupapa to truly flourish, though, the greater industry needs to reverse its attitudes. We do not need to look globally. Our worth is in what makes us unique.

If the facilitators of the Taite care about being honest to creativity – and let’s hope they do – they will consider this and any other responses that have been made with some thought and concern. If not, the supposed prestige that this award has been set up to manifest simply won’t last, and the Taite will be placed on the same shelf as our other music awards.

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  1. In Defence of Creativity (& The Greater Problem Of The ‘International Quality’): An Artist’s Response To Not Winning The 2011 Taite Music Prize

    Chewie Lewis on May 11, 2011 Reply
    • “I’d firstly like to pre-empt any inevitable interpretation of this response as one of upset in my being a finalist but not winner of the award.”

      how’s it going tim ellis, err, chewie

      Michael McClelland on May 11, 2011
    • Spoilsport

      Chewie Lewis on May 11, 2011
    • word.

      Arnold on May 12, 2011
  2. I can’t quite tell what Dudley’s complaint is, apart from the nature of the event on the night.

    The noise spilling over from the rest of the venue was a problem — I gather I couldn’t be heard further back initially, in part because people in the room were still talking — but the other speeches and the award announcement itself were heard once things had settled down.

    I wouldn’t recommend using the same venue again, given the noise issues. But the leap to a dedicated venue and a more formal event would cost more than the prize itself is worth. Ticket sales would impose further cost and complexity, as well as deterring people in the music community. So I’m sympathetic to IMNZ in that respect.

    FWIW, I did the gig for free, after working earlier in the evening. And yes, I was both surprised and pleased to see Ladi6 win.

    Russell Brown on May 11, 2011 Reply
    • did you read the second page?

      ChrisB on May 11, 2011
  3. I’ve done judging for the 48Hours film competition, which involved watching hundreds of hours of films, many of them several times. It involved fighting for the entrants I believe in and also being open-minded enough to change my mind about films that other judges may love more than me. It’s a massive, life-eating experience, but it’s all worth it.

    It sounds like the Taite judging process is trying to make things easy on the judges. But it shouldn’t be. The judges should be prepared to give the time necessary to listen to every album under different situations. The judges should get together and debate the finalists. It should not be as easy as voting in the general election.

    Robyn on May 11, 2011 Reply
    • football in groin! FOOTBALL IN GROIN

      matthew on May 11, 2011
    • As one of the organisers of the Taite Music Prize, I can assure Dyudley and Robyn that the judges did give the albums their full attention; I was really impressed by how seriously they took the task.

      Renee Jones on May 23, 2011
  4. What I did find curious this year – compared to last year – was the omission of who the judging panel for the finalists actually were. Sam Collins from Kiwi FM was the only one mentioned (in the press release I received from them) who said that New Zealand “has an abundance of ultra talented musicians putting hours of love and care into brilliant albums. After considered debate we managed to come to a conclusion that I think New Zealand can be proud of, a truly international quality album”

    I think this is what Dudley is referring too. The judges decision, by their own admission, seemed to be based on something other than the criteria laid out as the prize’s main intent?

    Aaron Hawkins on May 11, 2011 Reply
    • “What I did find curious this year – compared to last year – was the omission of who the judging panel for the finalists actually were. Sam Collins from Kiwi FM was the only one mentioned”

      I agree with this. I thought it was bizarre the judging panel weren’t named … if the award is to have credibility, then it needs to be more transparent, and announcing the judging panel should be step 1.

      Overall a well-reasoned and expressed piece.

      K on May 11, 2011
    • No big cover-up there really. There was only room for one quote in the press release so Sam’s was used. I’ve been meaning to post the full judging panel in the IMNZ website but haven’t had a chance yet.

      Renee Jones on May 30, 2011
  5. Stop defending creativity, start attacking it! It’s such a crutch for so many people who make stuff, but especially in music circles (film is the other ugly sister). Why is there an automatic assumption that creativity is ‘good’?

    Daniel on May 11, 2011 Reply
    • i dunno mate. seems like a bad comment.

      Joseph on May 14, 2011
    • i mean. i don’t think there is that assumption you mention. but truly creative practice that results in positive innovation is a good thing right? i mean, otherwise we’d get the same thing over and over.

      i dunno. i guess i can understand what your saying or trying to say. but that kind of statement is pretty detrimental.

      maybe we want different things though?

      Joseph on May 14, 2011
  6. Dudley’s issues with the judging process and the ceremony itself may be valid but airing them in this way seems naive, at best. Could he not have jotted down his concerns and forwarded them to the IMNZ in an email? He may have found they agreed with him and appreciated the feedback. It is only the Taite prize’s second year of existence, as acknowledged, and they’re not an ego-driven lot by any means. It’s the IMNZ for goodness sake, they ARE the little guy.
    Instead his attempt to discredit them on a public platform completely undermines their genuine attempts to represent the tennets of ‘originality, creativity and musicianship’, and frankly makes him seem, despite his protestations that he’s not, bitter.

    Leonie on May 11, 2011 Reply
    • IMNZ have been sent a copy of this, and I’ve asked it to be forwarded to John Taite.

      I’ve explained in the piece why I think public discussion is important, and add that any changes to the way the award is run are far more likely to be made if there is a consensus from a wider group of people.

      Dudley on May 12, 2011
    • But that’s exactly what I perceive as being naive. Why is it important that how they run their business is up for public discussion? They’re not a funding body, the Taite Prize isn’t paid for by the public. For better or worse, why someone wins the Taite prize is entirely up to them because they invented it. It’s their taonga to give, not ours.

      By all means have a rant about it, ranting is great fun, but don’t disguise it as some kind of social heroism.

      Essentially, someone put a lot of time and effort into throwing you a party and you took to the internet to tell everyone how much the party sucked (and kindly CCed them in on it afterwards). I’m sorry to antagonise, but I just think it lacks dignity.

      Leonie on May 13, 2011
  7. “creating fundamentally unique work that is a more direct expression of Aotearoa, whatever that may be.”

    Broadly in favor of most of what’s mentioned here, although getting caught up in national identity in place of international recognition just feels like the lesser of two evils.

    ChrisB on May 11, 2011 Reply
  8. He’s sounds bitter even though he maintains he isn’t to be honest. It also starts out like he wants to have a moan about Ladi6 but won;t quite go that far.

    I’m sure a couple of people people might of told him they expected him to win, that doesn’t justify a 2 page article on how the Taite prize could be improved. Comes across as rather self important.

    I thought Die Die Die should of won but the Ladi6 album was a good choice, i think the guy said it up there that just because something is creative doesnt make it any good.

    LMFAO on May 11, 2011 Reply
  9. This is the most thoughtful and well considered piece of critical writing I have read on this website. A thinly veiled and well founded attack on the broader NZ music ‘industry’ – which has become an inflexible self-serving circle jerk of mainly Auckland based ‘movers and shakers’; label hacks, ‘journalists’ and media reps.

    It seems to me Benson holds on to a hope that the Taite Award could somehow rise above the current back-slapping support of mediocrity in favour for celebrating innovation, substance and originality – those qualities that for me define ‘creativity’.

    bob each way on May 11, 2011 Reply
  10. Good suggestions here, particularly with giving judges a post-discussion chance to reconsider the finalists. Musicians should definitely be represented as well – previous winners would be an easy place to start. Most of all though, just good to read some well thought-out comments from a finalist. Cheers to Dudley for taking the time to put this together.

    Steve Newall on May 11, 2011 Reply
  11. I’m sure that the judging process can be made better, and have no doubt that it will. I for one am proud of the whole panel, and the job that was done.

    To address the “international quality album” statement, this was not in anyway taken into account in the judging process, merely my own opinion after the process was finished when they asked me for a statement about the winning album. This is still a statement I stand by, no cultural cringe intended or felt on my behalf.

    I can assure you that at every stage of the process we referred back to the criteria as set out by IMNZ. These things do need to grow and mature organically, and I’m 100% sure that the first two years of the Mercury Prize did not run smoothly, with every artist being happy with the process, in fact that is probably still not the case.

    Finally, thank you to Dudley for bringing up these points, as the only way that this prize can evolve, is by the stakeholders like the musicians, taking an interest and telling IMNZ how they want it run. Albeit with a grain of reality in there as well, realizing just how difficult and expensive it is to run an event like this.

    Go forth and create.

    Sam Collins on May 11, 2011 Reply
  12. the judging process at the moment seems really flawed, I think Dudley makes a lot of good points. I imagine they’ll talk about how it’s logistically too difficult and throw out all sorts of excuses, but a more rigorous, critical process is a must. I really doubt many of those records got a listen, or more than a cursory spin. which makes it an award for creative albums as long as they managed to get reasonable amount of publicity.

    blah on May 11, 2011 Reply
  13. I’m confused. Maybe my music history knowledge is on crack – but I thought all musical styles were invented overseas. How do we “get over the international sound ” blow some koauau ?

    kid coldslaw on May 11, 2011 Reply
    • You should definitely, definitely have a listen to Dudley’s album of songs by Hirini Melbourne. It answers your question.

      Dan Taipua on May 12, 2011
  14. Someone on the panel this year informed me they were given only several days notice to vote for albums out of the 73 entered albums. There was no physically possible way to listen to every album nominated even if he / she had stayed up with no sleep for 2 or 3 days straight listening on their Sennheisers. This is concerning – essentially it gives those acts with a better media campaign (Naked and Famous, Ladi6) a much higher chance of being voted for (familiarity) than other finalists for an award which advertises itself as honouring ‘originality, creativity and musicianship.

    concerned quirky female on May 12, 2011 Reply
  15. A well considered rant and a good starting point.

    A question: regardless of the initial and no doubt noble aims and intentions of any creative awards system, is the decline into a straight-up popularity contest inevitable?

    If not, what NZ examples demonstrate this?

    felix on May 12, 2011 Reply
  16. I think that Dudley is right when he says:

    “Also compelling is my observation that when something of an imbalance occurs within our music community, very few people seem prepared to make their concerns public. I suspect artists fear being blacklisted from future chances of recognition within the circles in question, while others in media positions have business and personal relationships that they are afraid of bruising.”

    For the same reason, I’ve been interested in some of the criticisms of the local industry that Hussein and Duncan put forward recently. And it seems like Dudley’s suggestions are about as “constructive” as you can get – mostly they’re realistic suggestions that could be carried out. Get some artists in the judging panel, play appropriate music at an appropriate volume at the ceremony, give the actual CDs to the judges, etc. Worth a discussion, isn’t it?

    Gareth Shute on May 12, 2011 Reply
    • The music at the ceremony issue wasn’t due to any of the organisers but a by-product of the venue. A bummer, but just one of those things. Nothing wrong with Lawrence Arabia playing though right?

      Steve Newall on May 12, 2011
  17. did you read the second page?

    Heh. No!

    In my defence, it was easily missed …

    I shall read it now.

    Russell Brown on May 12, 2011 Reply
  18. i nearly missed the second page too Russell lol

    concerned quirky female on May 12, 2011 Reply
  19. Dudley sounds like a bitter little man writing such an essay on such a simple issue.
    First of all, any awards or “reviews”should be thrown out the window all together in my opinion….Do we really need to hear the critiques of a few talentless people in the first place??
    Secondly, it’s just sad that Benson has to have a sad dickless little rant about not winning this award.

    Dan on May 12, 2011 Reply
    • On the money!

      Spaghet on May 14, 2011
    • Hey man, really constructive and intelligent feedback.
      A few talentless people? Dickless? This is obviously a well informed opinion. It’s a laugh that you should call Dudley bitter.

      jess on December 8, 2011
  20. Funny, I remember back a few years to when I bought one of Dudley’s EPs in Galaxy in Christchurch in order to review it. Back when he wasnt nominated for anything but when I was moved by his creativity.
    For what it’s worth I went to considerable trouble to source and listen to each album nominated, I submitted my selections later than the deadline for this reason. I couldn’t attend the final judge’s meeting for earthquake-related reasons and attempts were made for me to contribute via speaker phone but noise levels prevented me from doing so.

    Vicki Anderson on May 15, 2011 Reply
  21. Other than the apparently rather lackluster awards evening the biggest problem that seems to be facing this award is the poor judging process. Missing in action on the judging panel… Nick Bollinger, Grant Smithies, Gary Steel, Simon Sweetman… anyone from Radio NZ perhaps? Why exactly is Nicky Harrop a judge? Working for Sony BMG is hardly a qualification for judging an award from independent artists. And has anybody else picked up on that Charlotte Ryan has managed both Ladi 6 and last year’s winner Lawrence Arabia? Not saying she’s one to be buyist, but it’s something that should have been picked up on by IMNZ when deciding the judges. In this current age everything needs to be transparent otherwise it leaves things open for discussion.

    Matthew P on May 16, 2011 Reply
    • Sorry, I have to correct you there.

      Regarding judging panels, availability was an issue – getting 10 people in 1 room at the same time can be tricky – we offered to fly Vicki Anderson up but she was unable to make it; and would have loved to ask any of the other non-Aucklanders you mentioned too if we had the budget. Kirsten from Radio NZ was flown up last year; and we do try and rotate the panels. We looked into any conflicts of interest and found there were none that were currently valid.

      I’m suprised at the criticism toward the judges that we did have. They are all music fans and extremely knowledgeable. Just because someone’s not a writer or broadcaster certainly doesn’t preclude someone from being a music judge, I would hope. There are people in all levels of the industry with vast musical knowledge.

      And the award ceremony wasn’t lacklustre at all. Russell MC’d brilliantly and John Taite gave a thought-provoking speech.

      Renee Jones on May 30, 2011
  22. It’s Renee from IMNZ here, and I was quite surprised by many of Dudley’s criticisms.

    The judging process worked well; the fact that it was done across several levels and involved a wide range of people meant that it was as fair as possible; and I was really impressed with the thoughtfulness and knowledge of the finalists’ albums that the judging panel brought when they had to pick the eventual winner. People did listen to the albums and they took the judging seriously.

    It is a new award – this is only its second year, and it’s an organic beast, and there were some aspects of production that were simply out of our control, but overall I think it was a worthwhile and positive event.

    Renee Jones on May 23, 2011 Reply

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